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        <description>When a police officer or armed citizen uses force, the decision may take only seconds—but the legal consequences can last for years. In this episode of Making Shooters Better, Terry Vaughan sits down with Lewis “Von” Kliem, Chief Consulting and Communications Officer at Force Science, to examine what really happens after a use-of-force encounter. Drawing from more than 30 years in law enforcement, prosecution, legal advising, military service, and expert witness work, Von explains how split-second decisions are later scrutinized in courtrooms, where attorneys, judges, and juries may spend months or even years evaluating actions taken under extreme stress. Whether you're a law enforcement professional, firearms instructor, concealed carrier, attorney, or someone interested in responsible self-defense, this conversation offers valuable insight into the legal and human realities surrounding the use of force. In this episode, we discuss: • What the law actually means by "reasonable" use of force • Why reasonable does not mean perfect or correct • How stress, uncertainty, and time pressure affect decision-making • Why body camera footage and surveillance video don't always tell the full story • The difference between fast decisions in violent encounters and slow courtroom analysis • How juries evaluate self-defense and police use-of-force cases • Common misconceptions about violence created by television and movies • Why a single punch can constitute deadly force under the right circumstances • Law-driven tactics and how they influence legal outcomes • The importance of documenting firearms and self-defense training • Avoidance, de-escalation, and making defensible decisions before using force • The realities of expert witnesses, prosecutors, and courtroom testimony • Why responsible firearm ownership includes understanding the law—not just learning to shoot Lewis "Von" Kliem currently serves as Chief Consulting and Communications Officer at Force Science, where he works on complex use-of-force investigations and litigation throughout the United States and internationally. His background includes service as a police officer, prosecutor, military attorney, legal advisor, educator, policy specialist, and nationally recognized expert in human performance, constitutional policing, and use-of-force law. Learn more about Force Science: 🌐 https://forcescience.com Take advantage of the Force Science training discount: https://zfrmz.com/FQGEKuF4lY6u8mIsrkqr Follow Force Science: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/forcescience/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/forcescience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/forcescience/ X: https://x.com/forcescience Connect with Lewis "Von" Kliem: LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/vonkliemconsulting If you enjoyed this episode, please: 👍 Like the video 💬 Leave your thoughts or questions in the comments 🔔 Subscribe to the Laser Ammo channel for more episodes of Making Shooters Better. #MakingShootersBetter #LaserAmmo #ForceScience #SelfDefense #UseOfForce #PoliceTraining #FirearmsTraining #ConcealedCarry #LawEnforcement #HumanPerformance</description>
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